June 21, 2007

InstaMonkey: The Sooner the Better

Looks like the administration may be on the verge of throwing in the towel on Gitmo. It's about time.

Is it too much to hope that the secret CIA prisons and practices of extraordinary renditionwill be next to go? Yeah, I thought so.

Posted by RobbL at June 21, 2007 03:47 PM
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Cut the music and the dancing, Robb. The administration is giving the "wave off" to the story, and it looks like Drudge removed if from his site.

I still don't get why the way the United States treats foreigners caught planning and executing attacks against innocent Americans troubles you so. Besides, they get pretty good treatment down at Gitmo — at least those who don't throw poo, urinate on and attack the guards.

Where would you rather they go?

Posted by: Dr. Zaius at June 21, 2007 07:09 PM

"I still don't get why the way the United States treats foreigners caught planning and executing attacks against innocent Americans troubles you so."

What troubles me is that the state has the power to declare, quite arbitrarily, someone to be a "foreigner caught planning and executing attacks against innocent Americans" and that for some reason they have decided not to extend fairly basic human rights (like habeas corpus, contact with lawyers, contact with families, etc.) to those accused but not convicted of - hell, not even CHARGED with - these crimes. You don't know that the people down there have done anything, except that the state tells you so.

"Besides, they get pretty good treatment down at Gitmo — at least those who don't throw poo, urinate on and attack the guards."

How do you know this? Because the US Government tells you so? And they've never lied to the public before, right? And what constitutes "good treatment" for someone who hasn't been charged with a crime?

"Where would you rather they go?"

I would rather they be charged with a war crime, designated prisoners of war and treated as such, or released. And whatever is done, it should be done stateside with both legislative and public oversight.

As was pointed out in the comments on the Reason entry to which I linked, the military wanted to put these prisoners at Ft. Levenworth. Not an inappropriate place for a convicted war criminal, and certainly a functional detention facility for those awaiting trial or being held as prisoners of war.

Posted by: Monkey RobbL at June 23, 2007 02:55 PM
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